Return-Path: Delivered-To: craig@dapaero.com Received: from gator4254.hostgator.com by gator4254.hostgator.com with LMTP id yBvJLxPvqWbQ8gwAcizydQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2024 03:00:19 -0500 Return-path: Envelope-to: craig@dapaero.com Delivery-date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 03:00:19 -0500 Received: from gy.d.sender-sib.com ([77.32.148.25]:38368) by gator4254.hostgator.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sZ4Fu-003ZIg-2n for craig@dapaero.com; Wed, 31 Jul 2024 03:00:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sendinblue.com; q=dns/txt; s=mail; bh=0koTf+XFFWchPN2X5wWfhqCQL7LYVdV7AEYdkZ5R1BY=; h=from:reply-to:subject:date:to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:list-unsubscribe:x-csa-complaints:list-unsubscribe-post; b=yPQltdbOvQKZm02D/sHC1FnLVhyUEASDUjHWgWlYytpeXkCAcC8LfcRs+vJ79SMTkmIoMjHwsfHX EKkJOhcVP7t8uWhaKGmUeO/0JOghkVtOdliS8iqn3dpyw0lOF0vr9NLjsm7A/+mEquDLeRUhny8H vMKQ+hszQBeXvdzl80M= Received: by smtp-relay.sendinblue.com with ESMTP id 4a9132fe-036b-4994-ad46-cee40461addf; Wed, 31 July 2024 08:00:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailin-EID: MjQxMDYwNjE4fmNyYWlnQGRhcGFlcm8uY29tfjx5a3h0bGMwcDZ2OC5kNTFsanB1Zjh1aWJAc2VydmVyMS5tYWhhdG1haW5ub3ZhdGlvbnMuY29tPn5neS5kLnNlbmRlci1zaWIuY29t Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 08:00:04 +0000 Subject: New Comment on TT5216 P2004 master fuse P2004 BRAVO 105 Reply-To: crm@crm-tecnam.com X-Mailer: PHPMailer 5.2.27 (https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="b1_978f28dcbbe8e6118e035f8f095e9087" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4lhj9fdpv8y6.2t0hkh4tk8u8o@server1.mahatmainnovations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <4a9132fe-036b-4994-ad46-cee40461addf@smtp-relay.sendinblue.com> Origin-messageId: To: X-sib-id: hJ1zOcO5iILimSdgLQexYOsmTs1inqEp9OPPzSErNLuxo_zPt0Ijooe1xvbHgkMWZlKzdibqsdt7zn_NWjKEya1vtT2WGU0UkJTpvpGavkXWwRiIC9KVdl5-jcRlcYR2PZdZL8KLUuIFD7e9wBu0Q_VXci-qXA7k_3It4YiHWg X-CSA-Complaints: csa-complaints@eco.de List-Unsubscribe-Post: List-Unsubscribe=One-Click Feedback-ID: 77.32.148.25:6889280_-1:6889280:Sendinblue From: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 X-Spam-Score: -13 X-Spam-Bar: - X-Spam-Flag: NO --b1_978f28dcbbe8e6118e035f8f095e9087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =09 Ticket No : TT5216 P2004 BRAVO 105 Subject : P2004 master fuse Dear Craig Andrews, There is a reply to P2004 master fuse in the =22Customer Portal=22. you have a new comment *** BEGIN OF COMMENT *** Dear Craig,As suggested previously, we recommend replacing the 100 Amp fuse= and monitoring its performance to ensure everything is working smoothly.If= you encounter any further issues, please let us know right away, and we = will gladly provide additional troubleshooting support.Thanks Best = regardsGennaro Guarino Commented at:31-07-2024 09:50:52 ((UTC+01:00) = Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna) *** END OF COMMENT *** Ticket details: Title: P2004 master fuse Ticket No : TT5216 Status : In Progress Category :=20 Severity :=20 Priority : High Aircraft P2004 BRAVO S/N 105 Flight Hours: 1600 Reg Marks: N2414T Engine model: ROTAX 582 =20 Description: Hello, I have a P2004 SN 105 that has a 100 amp fuse on the positive lead = of the battery ( on a MTA fuse holder attached to the battery box).The fuse= is not shown in the POH or any other document.Recently this fuse blew, = which is the first time it has done anything in 1500 hours. It blew 1 or 2= seconds into cranking.diagnostics did not identify unusual so the fuse was= replaced with an 80 amp for additional testing. The aircraft was started a= number of times with no issues on the 80 amp fuse . For a more severe = test, I also cranked for several seconds with the rails turned off so the = engine would not start and the fuse was fine.I called a number of places = including previous tecnam dealers, and nobody knows what to make of this = fuse.Was this factory installed=3F It is an Italian fuse holder so very = uncommon here in the states.If installed by tecnam, what is the proper = fuse=3FWhat are the diagnostic and replacement procedures=3FI can send a = photo of the fuse block if necessary.RegardsCraig End of =10Description Message history All Comments: *** BEGIN***=20 Dear Craig,As suggested previously, we recommend replacing the 100 Amp fuse= and monitoring its performance to ensure everything is working smoothly.If= you encounter any further issues, please let us know right away, and we = will gladly provide additional troubleshooting support.Thanks Best = regardsGennaro Guarino Commented at:31-07-2024 09:50:52 ((UTC+01:00) = Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna)do you have any other = ideas or suggestions=3F as noted in last comment the fuse blew when first = starting to crank the engine so it was obviously not an overvoltage from = the alternator Commented at:30-07-2024 01:58:13 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, = Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna)As originally stated, the fuse burnt = out when first cranking the engine to start. So there was no overvoltage = as the alternator was not operating. Commented at:22-07-2024 18:47:43 = ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna)Craig We = believe the fuse likely blew due to an overvoltage from the alternator. We = recommend replacing the fuse and monitoring the situation to ensure it does= not recur. Additionally, we advise keeping a close watch on the voltage to= prevent any further overvoltage incidents.Please feel free to contact us = if you require any further information.Best regardsGennaro Guarino = Commented at:22-07-2024 10:00:35 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome= , Stockholm, Vienna)But WHY did this fuse blow out=3F There does not appear= to be any reason, are they known to have a limited lifetime=3F Commented = at:18-07-2024 19:32:53 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, = Stockholm, Vienna)Dear Craig,We confirm that the indicated fuse was = installed by us. However, we have no technical objections to replacing it = with another suitable 100 Amp fuse.If you require assistance in locating = the fuse and a compatible fuse holder, please let us know. We are also open= to evaluating one of your proposed alternatives, which you can easily = purchase.Please let us know how you would like to proceed.RegardsGennaro = Guarino Commented at:17-07-2024 15:10:56 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, = Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna)Why hasn't this issue been addressed =3F = Commented at:16-07-2024 09:31:17 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome= , Stockholm, Vienna)i was able to add the photo on my computer (but not = ipad) Commented at:12-07-2024 17:47:40 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern= , Rome, Stockholm, Vienna)This ticket will not let me add a photo. I select= photo and save and the photo uploads. It looks like it may flash some = message but it is gone in in instant so I can't tell what it is saying. I = emailed photo. Commented at:12-07-2024 17:27:36 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, = Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna)Craig Please, share with us a picture= of the fuse block, we will check with our specialists if this was factory = installed or not Thanks RegardsGennaro Guarino Commented at:12-07-2024 = 10:39:49 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna) *** END ***=20 Access the Customer Portal here: https://crm-tecnam.com/portal7/ Thanks TECNAM Technical Support T6 Comment Added From CRM : Send Email to Contact, where Contact is Portal = User --b1_978f28dcbbe8e6118e035f8f095e9087 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ticket No : TT5216 P2004 BRAVO 105
Subject : P2004 master fuse

Dear Craig Andrews,

There is a reply to P2004 master fuse in the =22Customer Portal=22.=

you have a new comment
*** BEGIN OF COMMENT ***

Dear Craig,

As suggested previously, we recommend replacing the 100 Amp fuse and = monitoring its performance to ensure everything is working smoothly.

If you encounter any further issues, please let us know right away, and we = will gladly provide additional troubleshooting support.

Thanks

Best regards
Gennaro Guarino Commented at:31-07-2024 09:50:52 = ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, = Vienna)



*** END OF COMMENT ***

Ticket details:
Title: P2004 master fuse
Ticket No : TT5216
Status : In Progress
Category :
Severity :
Priority : High

Aircraft P2004 BRAVO
S/N 105
Flight Hours: 1600
Reg Marks: N2414T

Engine model: ROTAX 582
 

Description:
Hello, I have a P2004 SN 105 that has a 100 amp fuse on the positive lead = of the battery ( on a MTA fuse holder attached to the battery box).
The fuse is not shown in the POH or any other document.

Recently this fuse blew, which is the first time it has done anything in = 1500 hours. It blew 1 or 2 seconds into cranking.

diagnostics did not identify unusual so the fuse was replaced with an 80 = amp for additional testing. The aircraft was started a number of times with= no issues on the 80 amp fuse . For a more severe test, I also cranked for= several seconds with the rails turned off so the engine would not start = and the fuse was fine.

I called a number of places including previous tecnam dealers, and nobody = knows what to make of this fuse.

Was this factory installed=3F It is an Italian fuse holder so very uncommon= here in the states.
If installed by tecnam, what is the proper fuse=3F
What are the diagnostic and replacement procedures=3F

I can send a photo of the fuse block if necessary.

Regards
Craig

End of =10Description


Message history All Comments:
*** BEGIN*** 
Dear Craig,

As suggested previously, we recommend replacing the 100 Amp fuse and = monitoring its performance to ensure everything is working smoothly.

If you encounter any further issues, please let us know right away, and we = will gladly provide additional troubleshooting support.

Thanks

Best regards
Gennaro Guarino Commented at:31-07-2024 09:50:52 = ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, = Vienna)

do you have any other ideas or suggestions=3F as = noted in last comment the fuse blew when first starting to crank the engine= so it was obviously not an overvoltage from the alternator
Commented = at:30-07-2024 01:58:13 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, = Stockholm, Vienna)

As originally stated, the fuse burnt out = when first cranking the engine to start. So there was no overvoltage as = the alternator was not operating.
Commented at:22-07-2024 = 18:47:43 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, = Vienna)

Craig

We believe the fuse likely blew due to an overvoltage from the alternator. = We recommend replacing the fuse and monitoring the situation to ensure it = does not recur. Additionally, we advise keeping a close watch on the = voltage to prevent any further overvoltage incidents.

Please feel free to contact us if you require any further information.

Best regards
Gennaro Guarino Commented at:22-07-2024 10:00:35 = ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, = Vienna)

But WHY did this fuse blow out=3F There does not = appear to be any reason, are they known to have a limited lifetime=3F
= Commented at:18-07-2024 19:32:53 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, = Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna)

Dear Craig,

We confirm that the indicated fuse was installed by us. However, we have no= technical objections to replacing it with another suitable 100 Amp fuse.=

If you require assistance in locating the fuse and a compatible fuse holder= , please let us know. We are also open to evaluating one of your proposed = alternatives, which you can easily purchase.

Please let us know how you would like to proceed.

Regards
Gennaro Guarino Commented at:17-07-2024 15:10:56 = ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, = Vienna)

Why hasn=E2=80=99t this issue been addressed =3F
= Commented at:16-07-2024 09:31:17 ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, = Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna)

i was able to add the photo = on my computer (but not ipad)
Commented at:12-07-2024 17:47:40 = ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, = Vienna)

This ticket will not let me add a photo. I select = photo and save and the photo uploads. It looks like it may flash some = message but it is gone in in instant so I can=E2=80=99t tell what it is = saying. I emailed photo.
Commented at:12-07-2024 17:27:36 = ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, = Vienna)

Craig

Please, share with us a picture of the fuse block, we will check with our = specialists if this was factory installed or not

Thanks

Regards
Gennaro Guarino Commented at:12-07-2024 10:39:49 = ((UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, = Vienna)


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Thanks
TECNAM Technical Support

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